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and the republicans to do a deal with obama. the simple reason, tom, obama will not agree to any significant spending cut. so why give him any kind of a grand bargain that the press will give him credit for and he can end the year as some kind of victorious guy? if you look at the u.s. deficit is about $4 trillion a year. these tax increases cover about 400 billion. that's 9 or 10%. that's. it the rest of this battle is over entitlements. i mean the democrats could solve this whole thing simply by agreeing to a minor increase, just a two year increase. >> the president did put that on the table and the republicans reject that. the real issue here is there going to be a self-inflicted wound to the economy? the uncertainty here. either way taxes on the wealthy are going up. they'll go up under a deal approved in the last hours which may or may not happen or if it doesn't, there's no deal, then we go over the so-called cliff and the tax goes up there. so either way taxes are going up. >> if the president wanted a deal on entitlements, all he has to do is raise the age from social security to 65 to 67, m
for a deal, president obama stated his terms face-to-face to top republicans and democrats. >> congressional leaders arrive ted white house this afternoon for their first group meeting with the president since november 16th. vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday. it included keeping the bush era tax break force the middle class but raising tax rates on incomes over 250,000 dollars a year. president also wants to extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans who will lose them in the new year. and a proposal would delay any spending cuts. the president asked for an up or down vote on his plan unless there is a counter proposal that will pass both the house and senate. a little more than an hour after the meeting began, several participants were seen leaving. >> and back at the capital the senate's democratic majority leader harry reid and republican minority leader mit
connell asked president obama and other congressional leaders to give them time to work on a compromise deal, recognizing time is running out. again today, the president emphasized the need for action. >> and congress can prehave not it from happening if they act now. leaders in congress are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class and i believe we may be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> we are told conversations are taking place. meanwhile, house republicans are due to meet tomorrow evening. it was originally scheduled for monday morning. it's not clear if they'll have the details of a deal, but the thinking seems to be getting everybody together sooner than later. >> kelly: i remember the president on friday saying that we've got to get this done and president obama, however, you go back to the campaign, had been campaigning on asking upper income americans pay more. how is that likely to play out right now? >> you're right. president obama made the argument that those making more than $250,000 a year should pay more. higher tax rate. jo
. >> arthel: if negotiations fail or lawmakers don't like a final deal, president obama wants to move forward with a plan c. what's in that? >> it would focus on three key areas. keeping the tax cuts for those making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefits and delayed dramatic spending cuts until later next year. president obama says the u.s. cannot afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> fortunately congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion with senate and house leadership about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. >> the wild card is figuring out what it will take to get a final deal to pass in the house of representatives. they return tomorrow, probably around when we find out if the top two senators reached an agreement. >> gregg: mike emmanuel live in washington. thanks very much. be sure to watch fox news sunday tomorrow. chris wallace talks fiscal cliff with u.s. senators lindsey
be a huge blow to the economy. lawmakers are getting more skeptical that congress and president obama can reach a deal. a big drop for stocks on friday. it is costing you last to get to grandma's house. gasoline prices have dropped to the lowest level in years. prices could rise as much as 10% a gallon over the next few days. engineers said motorola working on a top-secret device. featured is a bendable screen. google is looking to release this some time next year. i am ellen braitman with the bloomberg business report. >> 5:23. a teenager riding the holidays for her community. >> don't forget to e-mail us your response to our water cooler question of the day. how will you be spending christmas? you can share your response at wbaltv.com and on our facebook page, or send us an e-mail to watercooler@wbaltv.com. >> the girl is spreading some holiday cheer to some families in carroll county. >> this 16-year-old is busy wrapping christmas presents for low-income families in carroll county that have children with chronic illnesses. >> i like working with kids and i want to be a nurse. it is nic
work out a deal, tax hikes, spending cuts will take effect on tuesday of next week. president obama says he is willing to give congress a little time to come up with a compromise but his patience is limited well as is the rest of the country's. ed henry with the news live at the white house. ed, first, a dramatic meeting earlier today at the white house. and then this ultimatum from the president. >> that's right, harris. it was a dramatic exchange. what i'm told by a senior white house official is that the president basically told john boehner and mitch mcconnell the republican leaders in the room here for this meeting that he wants an up or down vote on his scaled back bill to try to avoid this fiscal cliff. and he basically turned on them and said so what's your response? what's your move? the next move is yours. and then i'm told that mitch mcconnell and harry reid, the democratic leader in the senate jumped in before john boehner really got a chance to fully respond and say, look, we will take the ball and try to pass a bipartisan bill in the senate. the president responded by
that boehner was negotiating with president obama way back when. it was a better deal all the way around. they missed that moment. but i think the real thing is who pays the price. the people who are going to pay the price are the americans, the middle class. this is crazy. it's nuts to be putting us through this. >> maria, all the focus on tax cuts. but the revenue from increasing the taxes on the wealthy will barely make a debt in the deficit to say nothing of the trillions in debt we're talking about. is this just a symbolic fight that the president is determined to win off his election? >> it's not symbolic. there will be money raised if the tax cuts for the top 2% are left to expire. but let me just bring up a point. no democrat and certainly not this president has said there should be no spending cuts. on the contrary this president has put on the table quite an extraordinary amount of spending cuts to the chagrin of many democrats i might add. are they to the extent the grand bargain was last year? no, of course not. the president is in a much stronger political position right now
obama got back today but no significant progress towards a deal. democrats and republicans are fighting about process and issues. republicans want democrats to come up with a new proposal. house republicans say sign on to their proposal, keeping tax ritz rates where they are. when it comes to this impasse, both sides have taken to blaming one another. >> the house of representatives is operating without the house of representative. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. not allowing the vast majority of the house represents to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass overwhelmingly. >> we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. the phone never rang and so now here we are five days from the new year and we might finally start talking. >> even if democrats and republicans, their leadership and the president, were to strike a deal on the fiscal cliff, it will take a couple days for the senate to work through it, the house to work through it and right now we're only five days out before the billions of dollars worth of automatic spending cuts and
obama returns to d.c. to hammer out a deal with the senate, but there may be another problem, a more threatening problem to deal with before the new year, and he's a mean one, no, not roland martin, the grinch. >> that's will, else' the grinch. >> that might be, from the new musical. >> look at him. >> will, go outside and get your costume on. >> it is thursday, december 27th, "starting point" begins right now. all right, row manned martin joins us, the host of "washington watch." "washington watch with roland martin" a little hot this morning. ron brownstein is the editorial director at "national journal" will cain in addition to playing the grinch as a conservative holding up the fiscal cliff deal is also an analyst for the blaze. >> he's a ball of fire this morning. >> our "starting point" before we get to all of that is torture for holiday travelers as a powerful winter storm smothers the northeast. pennsylvania, new york, massachusetts, new hampshire, vermont and maine are under winter storm warnings. by tomorrow new englanders could be buried under 18 inches of snow or more and
deal. president obama cut his hawaiian vacation short and is due to land in washington tomorrow. but if politicians aren't feeling enough urgency, the american people certainly are. a new gallup poll shows that 50% of americans think a deal is likely. that's down nine points from just a few weeks ago. if we go over the cliff, it will affect all of us. if you're a family that makes $50,000 a year, your taxes will go up by $2,000. if you make $100,000, your taxes will go up by $4600. the combination of tax hikes and deep spending cuts could end up looking a little bit like this, over the cliff in a free fall. whiskey and cigarettes in hand. "outfront" we have the view from both sides of the aisle. democrat from arizona and republican from wisconsin. earlier, i spoke to the arizona congressman and asked him what he would support a scaled down deal that the president pushed for on friday. >> yeah, i would. i think that's realistic. i think we're at a point after, after the implosion by boehner and the party not to be able to come to an agreement with president obama. that we're talk
one is avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> unless the president obama and congress can reach a deal by the new year, tax increases and spending cuts will take deep effect. >> president obama's re-election was one of the biggest political stories of the year. >> with the first of our year enders, here's abc's karen travers. >> reporter: president obama had to overcome a well funded opponent, struggling economy and voter doubts that he had the right agenda to turn the nation around. and after a roller coaster season, he got them. mitt romney may have started off at the front runner, but to win the republican nomination, he had to fend off some feisty challengers. >> he's the worst republican in the country to put up against president obama. >> reporter: and overcome some self-inflicted wounds. after 50 primary contests, romney clenched the nomination and it was on to the general election. >> it will be a choice between -- >> two very different paths. >> reporter: their battle focused on the economy. >> we can't afford another four years like the last four years. >> we need more tax cu
.c. weather in the app store. >>> negotiations are underway to reach a deal. president obama and congressional leaders just wrapped up a meeting at the white house. we stand right now at three days and counting until that new year's deadline when taxes would go up for all u.s. taxpayers and steep spending cuts would kick in across the board. nicole collins has the latest. >> reporter: john boehner back in washington immediately heading to the white house, which brought the president and congressional leaders together the first time since november, but it's unclear if it brought the country closer to avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> when the president calls congressional leaders to the white house, it's all political theatre or they have a deal. not that it's all political theatre. >> this is not for show but a last-ditch effort by the president to bring congressional leader together to try to get a small package at least, a small deal together before the new year. >> reporter: the president called the meeting as lawmakers pointed fingers in this high- stakes game of chicken. >> the republicans wh
to have to deal with, in terms of the debt. so i agree, i think president obama may have won the short-term battle. but i don't think he's going to win on this -- on the debt situation because that is when there is going to be absolute no negotiation on how much -- on what spending we do. it is going to be how much spending cuts that we are going to make because we are really at the point of no return, with respect to our debt. >> when you break out some of the individual leader who is are playing a part in this fiscal cliff negotiation, this is the latest gallup polling around christmas time. none of them faired too well. the president does the best. but we have house speaker john boehner, approval is 26% and harry reid, 34%. doug, who steps up and shows some leadership at this moment? >> well, the president's overall approval rating is pretty high, i think, he is in the mid-50s, about the highest he has been in some time. i think it's going to be, in the short term, it's mcconnell and reid. can it pass the house? that will be up to john boehner's leadership. i think that john boehner
's no deal and inaction, there's a lot of leverage it would seem that president obama would have. all the bush era tax rates go away. polls suggest republicans will be blamed more than democrats with if we go over the curb so to speak. is there a real incentive here for democrats to say, let's just not make a deal today? >> i think the only incentives for democrats not to make a deal, to wait for us to go over the curb, to wait for us to repeal the bush tax cuts or moving into a lower level for republicans, so there's base saving for them. for democrats there's more leverage to ask for what i think are the important elements. unemployment insurance, stimulus spending and hopefully, an extension of the payroll tax. i would prefer us to postpone the status quo for two more years because what's important right now is to get the economy back in gear and getting the economy back in gear. >> you would extend? >> the fiscal cliff would happen like in 2014. >> so bush tax cuts for the top 2%? >> keep those. the whole shabang. what we need is more money to go to the economy to keep things aflo
republicans said it is up to their leaders to reach a deal. danielle leigh has more. >> as president obama leaves hawaii for washington, tension on capitol hill is on high. >> i don't see how you could handle a large plant involving tax reform in a matter of days. >> serious doubt is setting in. even starbucks is getting involved. john boehner said he is sitting this round out. >> i think that john boehner is being controlled unfortunately by the right wing pickwick that leaves it up to harry reid and the rest of the senate to find a solution. the plan would avoid tax increases and would eliminate some big spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> you are likely to see a two- step process. >> without a deal, bush era tax cuts will expire on january 1. congress set up the deadline hoping it would force a compromise. so far that has a compromise in. also flyback will be brian schatz. he will be replacing daniel inouye and will likely be sworn in later today. danielle leigh, wbal-tv 11 news. >> with the new year comes new state laws. >> kim dacey has more on what to expect. >> on tu
or not there will be a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. now, after that conference call. the house speaker john boehner, his number two eric cantor the majority leader put out a statement putting the onus on president obama and for the reason why there has not been a deal so far. basically saying they can't move forward in the house without some sort of action in the senate the next few days. what they left out of that, unfortunately, is the reason why they are waiting on the senate to do something. the senate coming into session tomorrow, by the way. is that speaker boehner couldn't get enough votes to move forward on a plan to avert the cliff last week. that's why we are where we are right now. the president will be boarding air force one in a few hours. flying overnight back to washington. is he likely to bring together congressional leaders in the next couple days when he he gets back to washington. time is running out, harris. >> harris: no breaking news in any of that. but we did see some today. treasury secretary tim geithner saying we could hit the debt ceiling the day after we follow off the fiscal
. >> there is some new hope for a deal to avoid going of the fiscal cliff. president obama will meet with congressional members later today. >> president obama and congressional leaders need to make progress. today's meeting at the white house could be a final opportunity. >> may be the president might make a new offer in getting toward the 11th hour of the negotiations. >> without a deal, taxes will go up on every worker and next week. et in.pending cuts sai >> the government is supposed to be working for the people and i do not see that. >> senators came back from their christmas break early. nt overblicans have bee backwards. we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. >> we are in the same situation we it been in for a long time. we cannot negotiate with ourselves. >> house members will come back to work on sunday and will work through the new year if needed. republic and say they are willing to compromise on taxes but not more government spending. the goal is to get a deal before midnight monday. a growing number of lawmakers doubt that will happen. danielle leigh, wbal-tv 11
from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. they say if president obama and congress don't make a deal we will almost certainly see a recession. do you buy that, steven? >> the congressional budget office is a nonpartisan group that does this and says we will in fact have an immediate rescission. they say that we come out of a short, sharp recession stronger than we would be if we didn't go into that recession in the first place. we stop borrowing money from the future to prop us up now. we have the immediate problems but in the long term we are in gets shape. that's what they are grappling this. how do they best structure this to do the least amount of damage now but get us to the good economy in the future. >> reporter: if you look up a research paper from the president's own economist you'll find in the long run we are healthier, short run, yeah, it's painful. is that what motivates some of the republicans that, you know, what are called chuckle heads, but maybe in the end they are wisdom heads. >> that is certainly part of the motivation there. the other part of the motivation, and
obama wants higher taxes on the wealthy, stimulus spending, limited cuts to entitlements, and speaker boehner wants limited tax increases and keep his job. bob, which -- where do we go from here if a deal isn't hashed out in the next few hours? >> not necessarily in that order. i think the priorities for john boehner may have been turned around. jared is an old jazz fan, as am i, and he knows that miles davis had a song called "so what" and i think that might be the background music right now as all the posturing is going on in public. the simple fact of the matter is that they are setting up the process for working out a deal after they have scared the daylights out of everybody, and it would seem to me that to quote another song, which is "what are you going to be doing new year's eve," i think that we'll be finding that these people are still hard at it and maybe calling congress into session tomorrow night which is a really rotten way to end the year. >> jared, explain for our viewers what it really means to go over the cliff. >> well, first of all, as a former jazz bassist i have
, the spending cuts that make up the fiscal cliff. president obama, he cut his christmas vacation short to deal with this crisis. he arrived back from hawaii just a short time ago, and the senate also returning to work today hoping to come up with some kind of agreement. but time is running out. jessica yellin, she has the latest from the white house. we've got dana bash following the developments on capitol hill. i want to start off with you, dana. what do we know about a possible compromise on the senate siepd what they might be proposed in fairly short order? >> compromise, i'm not so sure we'll see that. but i was told by a republican senator and democratic senator that the pr indicated before he left for hawaii that he, the president, is expected to send a piece of legislation up today with his scaled back tax plan. that's something that the president outlined in general terms on the friday before he left for hawaii and since then what we've been hearing from republicans, particularly mitch mcconnell's office is we can't talk about whether we can pass anything until we actually see the leg
have until next week to come up with a deal. this afternoon president obama will hold a meeting at the white house. >> he invited democratic and republican leaders for the talks. we get the latest from sherri ly live at the white house. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. they are back at it again today. these are the first face to face talks between the president and republican leaders, and today the president will be meeting with congressional leaders here at the white house from both parties. they are trying to figure out a way to get around this fiscal cliff, and at this point it's not about coming up with a grand bargain. they're just trying to get something done and fast. president obama back in washington, but can he lead both parties to a compromise fiscal cliff work-around? republicans say democrats have been dragging their feet for months and they won't be pressured into what they considered a bad deal that doesn't help balance the nation's books. >> the president calls congressional leaders to the white house, it's political theater or they have a deal. my bet is
obama and the senate cut short their holiday vacations to work out a last-minute deal to avoid the "fiscal cliff." they have less than five days to come to agreement before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in. senate majority leader harry reid has a plan to let tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year along with short-term spending cuts instead of the long-term cuts that would happen if there is nodule. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop but it's not going to be a good drop because americans' taxes are approaching the wrong direction. >> reporter: negotiations between president obama and house republican leaders stalled last week. the house is now leaving it up to the democratic-controlled senate to solve the problem before the new year deadline. in addition to the "fiscal cliff," treasury secretary timothy geithner warned congress that the u.s. is close to hitting its debt limit of $16.4 trillion. geithner saved the government will take steps to allow more burrough after december 31. danielle nottingham, cbs news, washington. >>> let
obama is packing his bags, heading back to washington to try to forge a deal on the fiscal cliff, with just six days left to negotiate, a deal to avoid the catastrophic cliff, the president will leave hawaii tonight to try to work on a bargain between democrats and republicans. brianna keilar is traveling with the president in hawaii and joins us now. good morning, brianna. did the president cut his vacation short or was it planned all along? >> reporter: he did cut his vacation short from what was initially planned which was to go through the new year, so yes, he cut it short. i think we have a sense he might be heading back to d.c., carol, you'll recall when talks fell apart last week between house speaker john boehner and the president as the president departed for hawaii he talked to reporters in the briefing room and he said "see you next week" so i think we had a sense he would be coming back earlier than initially planned and it was just a matter of when, not if, and he'll be heading back tonight, that's local time so he'll be traveling overnight, it's quite a long flight,
the bleeding. gregg: hope is fading and time is running out obviously for a fiscal deal. president obama is though meeting with congressional leaders at the white house today. it's a move that tennessee senator bob corker says feels more like optics than anything else. while several other critics claim lawmakers may actually want to go off the fiscal cliff. and in fact some have said the president wants to go off the fiscal cliff. so, can a deal be reached? juan williams is a fox news political analyst. he joins us live. mary katharine ham, editor-at-large at hotair.com and is a fox news contributor. juan, what do you think about that notion? barrasso was the first one to say it on "fox news sunday" and you were there but others have said it since that the president really does want to go over the cliff so that he can reap the benefits of all of the tax revenues that would be had by everybody's taxes going up? >> i think that is historical revisionism of a very current type. he is already trying to spin this because i think it is clear from the polls that most americans want a deal. they
term? >> i hear republicans and democrats and obama want to come together on middle class rates. i think they'll make a deal in early january to extend some part. >> but are you saying this doesn't really hurt? if they go sometime next friday, nine days from now, will the market go down and come up or will it plunge? >> the republicans want to cut a deal before the cliff. >> i know that. but if this thing goes over the cliff, will there be term innocent damage to the economy like a new recession? >> republicans tell me they think if they can make a deal on rates early january the markets will fluctuate. >> i am hearing the markets have already reacted. >> for a couple days. couple days. >> yeah. >> i've heard another argument. a lot of people say, or at least people i've talked to, if they can't do it by the date, they can't count on anything gets done. it'll get worse every day. >> it has been for two years. >> let's look at isaacson. i've never heard him say anything before. this is the first quote i've heard in my life. some republicans have urged their colleagues to pass someth
and there's still no sign leaders are closer to agreeing on a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. here's brian mooar. >> as senate leaders were behind closed doors, president obama and republicans issued dueling messages on the web. >> we can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing. >> if the nation goes over the fiscal cliff next tuesday, each side blames the other. >> we can avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and democrat controlled senate step forward this week and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it now. >> all over the country now, uncertainty is in the area. >> it's not a matter of am i going to pay my light bill or not but will it deplete my savings. >> even if the impact isn't real, the perceived impact could cause us to drop off in sales. >> getting a deal is up to the senate's top democrat and top republican. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader myself and the white house, in hopes we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation. >> whatever we come up with will be imperf
to strike a deal before the end of the year deadline. president obama is on his way to washington this morning while senators are coming back to capitol hill. chip reid is at the capitol. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the president arrived back in washington in a little bit more than an hour. the senate comes back tonight and the house it could be a couple of days. there is not the sense of urgency you would think there would be with a critical deadline looming. some members of congress admit they may well just go over the fiscal cliff and deal with it in january after the new congress is sworn in. leaving his family behind to continue their vacation without him, president obama boarded air force one early this morning and headed for washington to deal with unfinished fiscal cliff business. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, mr. obama wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and senate majority leader h
number one is avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> unless the president obama and congress can reach a deal by the new year, tax increases and spending cuts will automatically take effect. >> and the clock is ticking. >>> of course, when we look back at this year, president obama's re-election was one of the biggest political stories of the year. all others, you could say, they pealed in comparison. >> with the first of our year-enders, here's abc's karen travers. >> reporter: to win a second term, president obama had to overcome a well funded opponent, a struggling economy, and voters' doubts that he had the right agenda to turn the nation around. [ chanting ] >> all: four more years! >> reporter: and after a roller coaster season, he got them. mitt romney may have started off at the frontrunner, but to win the republican nomination, he had to fend off some feisty challengers. >> he's the worst republican in the country to put up against barack obama. >> the odds are very high i'm going to be the nominee. >> reporter: and overcome some self-inflicted wounds. >> i like being able to fire pe
. >>> aloha means good-bye. president obama cuts his hawaiian vacation short to deal with the fiscal cliff. it is already too late? good morning, 7:00 in the east. i'm alina cho. >> and i'm drew griffin. soledad o'brien is off today. "starting point" begins right now. >>> our starting point, a cruel one. a one-two christmas punch from mother nature. tornadoes and blizzards tearing through the south and midwest. >> oh, my god. we need to go. it's right there. >> mobile, alabama, took a real beating. a twister blowing up transformers, leaving more than 25,000 customers without power. reports to damage to homes, a high school, and church. >> it came in behind the church right there, and then all green fluorescent lighting and popping transformers left and right. and we heard the crashing and everything and the power went out. >> i prayed to god as loud as i could, and i was just praying for my safety, and i knew the church was shaking. i just prayed that the church stayed put. >> here is the other half of this story, blizzard conditions blanketing much of the midwest and the northeast will ge
majority leader mitch mcconnell said there is still time to work out a deal. however, there is no firm evidence of any real plan. here is what we do know tonight. president obama cutting his vacation short arriving back in washington today. house lawmakers announcing late today they are now planning to return on sunday. but listen to the rhetoric. and you have to question whether that will do any good because near early everything that is coming out of d.c. is about blame. not answers. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them go in fact. they are not here. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnell saying we should have worked all this out months ago. >> and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of t
until the fiscal cliff. president obama catching a flight back to washington where there's doubt that a deal can get done in time. good morning, everybody, for a thursday morning. very early, 5:00 a.m. on the east coast. welcome to "early start." i'm alina cho. >> i'm drew griffin. john and zoraida are off today. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. a deadly winter storm system slamming the northeast after hammering the nation's heartland. look at this radar, system serious snowmaker. it's packing destructive winds, six states under winter storm warnings right now. pennsylvania, new york, massachusetts, new hampshire, vermont and maine. all could see a foot of snow or more. more than 200,000 customers spanning several states already without power. 1,700 plus flights canceled yesterday. imagine that. hundreds more already taken off the board this morning. there are six deaths being blamed on the weather since tuesday and the threat hasn't passed yesterday. bonnie schneider, meteorologist checking the system from the cnn center in atlanta. first, we go to ennis standing by in miserable, sno
a deal or work something out. president obama says he is modestly optimistic that negotiations could prevent these huge tax hikes and spending cuts from kicking in. >> we don't yet see an agreement, and now the pressure is on congress to produce. if they don't, what i've said is that in the senate we should go ahead and introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are, and there should be an up or down vote. everybody should have a right to vote on that. if republicans don't like it, they can vote no. >> brianna keilar, she's at the white house. brianna, they're saying they're going to come back to work in a couple of hours. a lot of people have been up a lot longer than that, up earlier, trying to figure out what's going on here. i understand you do have some news. potentially there's a new offer on the table. >> reporter: that's right. according to democratic sources, suzanne, they have gone up to $450,000 as the threshold for those income tax rates for where those bush-era tax cuts would expire. so beyond $450,000 for a family. this is somewhat sig
. >>> also this morning president obama cutting short his vacation in hawaii, heading back to washington that. will happen tonight to work on a fiscal cliff deal. don't wait for washington to reach a deal by the end of the year. coming up, what you can do right now to minimize the impact on your own bottom line. >>> jessica simpson used the holiday to confirm she is pregnant once again. she tweetd a picture of her 7-month-old daughter maxwell with the words "big sis." >>> in mobile, alabama, for us this morning, jim cantore. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, savannah. storm prediction center said we had as many as 34 tornadoes yesterday. average for the month of december is 26. church behind me here heavily damaged, two sections of the roof have been torn off and dropped below. christmas morning, that church was full of people and parishioners attending christmas service. power poles have been taken down as well. the last thing people in mobile expected on christmas day was to be cleaning up after a tornado. >> oh, my god! look at that. >> reporter: this was the scene in downtown mobil
. >>> now, to the fiscal cliff. still looming large as president obama returns to the white house this morning. the president cut short his christmas vacation in hawaii to get back to washington. congress will be in session today, amidst fading hope that a deal could be reached by the new year. no agreement would mean spending cuts and historic tax hikes for virtually every american. >>> officials in newtown have a message for people who want to send gifts to the grief-stricken town. please don't. they say gifts have arrived in such numbers, they overwhelmed the small community's ability to process them. a fund established after the shooting to support newtown has grown to $3.5 million. >>> meanwhile, hundreds of schoolteachers plan to attend firearms training today in salt lake city. the 200 teachers come from districts across utah. they have volunteered for the concealed weapons training. organizers say in past years, only a few dozen teachers attended the training. they're expecting an overflow crowd because of this month's tragedy in newtown, connecticut. >>> west webster volu
left until automatic tax hikes and severe budget cuts go into effect. president obama is urging democrats and republicans to reach a deal. senate leaders are working on a last-minute compromise. that could be voted on tomorrow. >>> a horrific accident in mississippi. six people including five children were killed when their suv plunged into a creek yesterday. the children were all related. police say four other adults including the parents of those children managed to escape the cause of that accident is under investigation. >>> and stunning video of a plane crash outside of moscow, russia, the passenger plane overshot the runway and slammed into a highway yesterday. amazing video. four of the eight crew members on board were killed. there were no passengers on the plane and no one on the highway was hurt. the cause of that crash is under investigation. >>> and finally, a celebration at the vatican. about 40,000 young pilgrims from all across europe attended an open air mass conducted by pope benedict. they cheered as the pope waved to the crowd from his popemobile and the crowd
four days left and no deal in sight. that could change today, when president obama holds a meeting with all four congressional leader at the white house. we're not saying you should bet on it. let's bring in ron brownstein for "the national journal." >> good morning. >> good morning. we're talking about this whole idea of a fiscal cliff was absolutely not supposed to happen. >> this was a machine that the two sides built to give guy them more will power to do what they didn't want to do to begin with. which is compromise. they could not reach a deal to destabilize the federal government's long-term finances so they built this to put more pressure on themselves to reach a deal now. and even this does not seem to be enough to do it, to force them to make the difficult concessions that are required for the two sides to come together this is indignant of a broader problem we face of a red coalition and blue coalition that reflect very different visions of american and show less and less cooperation. we are looking at a dividing government for the next two years and more likely next fou
optimistic, at least president obama does. do you think we're any closer to a deal at this point? >> i think there's no doubt that we are closer to a deal, but how much closer we'll know probably in the next 24 hours. it's interesting because in the last 20 hours, the silence that had pervaded capitol hill was completely changed after the president and the four congressional leaders he met with all announced that they're shifting negotiation tactics now to a group of two. two senators, mitch mcconnell and harry reid, the two party leaders in the senate, are going to be trying to find a way to get a deal today. we know their staff is talking. we don't expect actually any necessary meetings between those two leaders right away today. we think that their chiefs of staff are going to be on the phone, via e-mail. this reported from our producer, ted barrett. perhaps tonight they'll see if the leaders can sit down and get together something to present to their various caucuses. now as i said, it was silent until yesterday. then we heard many people speaking. again, we heard from president obama th
're nowhere near a deal. i think i have this figured out. president obama came back from hits vacation saying let's see if we can get something together, knowing very well that they can't. the house and senate are so far apart, neither one will even entertain the idea -- >> juliet: so why have a meeting? >> eric: you look like you're trying o do the right thing. these bush tax cuts will expire december 31, 72 hours from now, whatever the number is. if president obama comes back in january sometime and says, you know what, house republican members, i have an idea. let's lower taxes 'cause they went back up. let's lower taxes back to where they were last year for the people making under $250,000 a year and let's call them the obama tax cuts. it looks like he's the tax cutter and if you're a republican in the house, you go, wait a minute, i'm supposed to be for lower taxes. how can i vote no for lowering taxes on anybody? >> kelly: you allude to a very important point to why critics of this entire mess have gone on to say that perhaps president obama knew that he wanted to have a fiscal cliff, f
are scrambling for a last minute deal. we have 35 hours and counting. here is more of president obama talking about the overall situation. >> what congress needs to do is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was that we should keep taxes where they were for 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses. but, if we are serious about deficit reduction, make sure the wealthy are paying more and combine it with spending cuts and put the economy on a long term trajectory of growth. over the next 48 hours, my hope is people recognize that regardless of partisan differences, our priority has to be to make sure taxes on middle class families do not go up. that would hurt our economy badly. at a certain point, it is very important for republicans in congress to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way to solve problems. >> give you the live picture. you are seeing the majority leader, harry reid. >> they will begin at 3:00. announce the business o
gotten it wrong every time over 50 years. and so whether you're deal -- what you're doing with obama is not just the expiration of the bush tax cuts, but obama tax goes into effect as well. the cap gains rate will go up 58% and this is going to lose revenue rather than gain revenue just as it has in the past. similarly, the tax increase on dividends. if the bush tax cut expires, along with the obamacare tax increase, the tax rate on dividends is going to increase -- actually triple. when bush cut the tax rate on dividends, dividends pay soared and so did the taxes napad on them as a result. if you reverse that tax cut and put the obamacare tax on top, dividends are going to collapse and so are the revenues that government will collect from the dividends. you'll have a similar result as you had in 1990 where they increased rather than declined. >> clayton: do we not learn from our history? this seems like it's just repeating all over again. politicians aren't aware of their history here and what we could go through again. we know what 1991 and 1992 looked like with that recession. it
. democrats hope mr. obama will continue to fight for a complete agreement, not just a temporary patch. >> i definitely hope that he can and will continue to push for as big a deal as possible, but you've got to remember now, we're just a few days away. >> if no deal is reached over 2 million americans will lose their jobless benefits and workers will see a 2% cut in take home pay as social security payroll taxes go up january 1st. jennifer johnson, nbc news, washington. >> well, around this time of year, there is a big surprise that happens on the rockefeller center ice skating rink outside our news world headquarters. it happens about half a dozen times a day every day. erica hill has the story. >> right outside our doors at rockefeller center, home to the christmas tree, we often hear an plows this time of year. and when we do, we know it means something special is happening. >> yeah. >> the reason for those snoemts people like summit choong flew 4,000 miles from the netherlands just to be here. >> keep skating. >> he's about to give his girlfriend rina the surprise of her life. >> she do
scrambles to avert the fiscal cliff. >> president obama asked congressional leaders to convene at the white house today. >> if the president and lawmakers cannot reach a deal economists warn that could trigger another recession. >> are they going to avoid the fiscal cliff, eric? >> the gulf war general known as stormin' norman has died. gen malnorman shwards cop of dread the coalition that drove saddam hussein's forces out of kuwait. >> the monster storm system finally moved out but some are bracing for another round of snow. >> more than 14,000 longshoremen are planning to strike on sunday the walk-out could affect ports from boston to houston. >>> for the second time this month a man has been pushed to his death in the path of a new york subway train. >> crazy people running the streets. >>> an uninvited guests slithered into a backyard in florida. >> somebody else got the shower on the sideline. >> jamal crawford who i think should be an all-star coming off the bench is dangerous. be still. >> and all that matters. >> hillary clinton plans to go back to
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